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From: "Joseph E. Van_Riper III" <JVANRIPER@UNCA.EDU>
To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com
Subject: WizKid picked up Quip!
Politikill@cup.portal.com types:
|I just got QUIP!
Heh.. I've had it a while, but then, I wrote it so...
|I see what you mean, needing to add XPK support! Whoa! 10,000 lines!?
Yeah... mind you, I ripped most of that off other fortune cookie programs, and
there's a minor chance that some of them repeat <gasp>, but I've tried to take
repeating quips out. I figured I'd better give a TON of quips to my potential
users instead of crippling them with only a few (and leaving them to gather the
rest).
|But, I have a proposition for you, to perhaps make Quip more used...use it
|to add taglines to messages.
Actually, I was hoping (by releasing the source code) that others would be able
to do exactly that. That's why I made it work with stdio (besides being plain
easier).. so people could redirect the output to the ends of messages or
something. The prefix/suffix file support stuff could make customization that
much easier, too, by having the header of the message as the prefix, the
message itself as the 'format', the quip, then the BBS could add a tag-line as
a suffix!
However, I have been looking for a bunch of one-line quips to use for this
purpose (that is, I need to find a datafile filled with one-line quips, and
I've been too busy to manage this myself). Perhaps your Gamma-Tags could be
reformatted to Quip conventions...
|You have almost everything there, but when the GUI is added, this may be
|something to think about.
I was actually surprised that people wanted a GUI for Quip, but after thinking
about it a while, and knowing some of the problems I had with manipulating the
quips (it's a major pain, I think, to have to use a text editor to find the
quip I want to modify, when I know the number of the quip), I can see where a
GUI front end/maintenance program for Quip would make it a very positive
addition to the overall setup.
Here's a question for everyone who has bothered to look at Quip...
I want to make the damned datafile smaller (it's irritating, to me, to have a
textfile that is .5 megs in size, when I know text can be crunched and
extracted fairly quickly). I've planned to use XPK to handle this. XPK will
let me pack/unpack in memory rather than always using files (thank goodness).
My problem is, I want to create an IFF to handle this, but I don't want to
compromise on size (that is, I don't want to wind up using 8 bytes for every
single quip, yet I want to take advantage of IFF).
Currently, my thoughts are to put all the compressed quips in the same IFF
chunk (say, FORM QUIP DATA), then have another chunk with relative pointers to
the compressed quips within the chunk (FORM QUIP TABL), with perhaps other
chunks for other bits of information (FORM QUIP COMM MAXS XPKN...). Does
anyone have any input on this; am I going about this efficiently.. is there a
way that might be more efficient for both speed and compression.. anything I
perhaps haven't taken into account?
In any event, I'm happy you like Quip, Politikill. If you should create any
new datafiles, please send 'em up <grin>.
- Trey